[C++ Academia] Conference Proposal

Fri Jul 13 14:24:11 PDT 2018

I agree mostly with Sarthak. I don't really see how it would be
possible to create a single conference (be it a track or standalone)
about C++ in academia in general, given that academia as a whole has
so many disparate topics.

Even if you create an academic track, unless all the work in there can
be pertinent to what I am doing, there would be little point for me to
go. I am currently at ICML, which is a very large AI conference (3k+
people), and it is hard already to find tracks I am actually
interested in since there's so many different topics.

I don't think I would go to a conference about C++ in academia unless
the papers presented were actually pertinent to my field, and I'm
pretty sure my colleagues would do the same. For example, a short talk
about how C++ is applied to the medical field would be of pretty much
no interest to anyone in my lab. Trying to make training courses or
C++ demonstrations in specific academic conferences which directly
target the field of that conference I would imagine would gather much
more interest.

Eugenio

On 7/13/18, Pati, Sarthak <Sarthak.Pati at uphs.upenn.edu> wrote:
> Would it make sense to conduct relevant training sessions on cutting edge
> algorithms/technologies using C++ in field-specific conferences? For
> instance, in the field of Medical Imaging, MICCAI<http://miccai.org/>’s
> annual meetings would be a nice target in collaboration with Kitware (they
> design and maintain the ITK<https://itk.org/> library, one of the most
> widely used toolkits in the field).
>
> I have been hiring for my team recently and I get the impression that
> current graduates are taught very antiquated methods in C++ and that notion
> needs to change if we would like traction in the academic community.
>
> Thanks,
> Sarthak
>
> From: CppAc [mailto:cppac-bounces at lists.cpp.ac] On Behalf Of Chuck Allison
> Sent: 13/Jul/2018; Friday 01:09
> To: Jon Kalb <jon at kalbweb.com>; Hartmut Kaiser <hartmut.kaiser at gmail.com>
> Cc: cppac at lists.cpp.ac
> Subject: Re: [C++ Academia] Conference Proposal
>
> I presented a few times at OOPSLA. I don't feel it's relevant for me
> anymore, and I really don't hear much about it these days.
>
> I do like the idea of having a conference associated with ACM. That's what
> CCSC does at a regional level (I have presented there many times over the
> last 15 years). For me personally, the idea of an academic conference that
> focuses on teaching as well as other interesting issues related to software
> development and programming languages is very appealing. CCSC does that, but
> it lacks relevance to and connection with industry. So either I like the
> idea of beefing up the academic component of Cppcon, or having another
> conference which is more welcoming to academics and yet still keeps the
> connection to industry. I live in both worlds, and I think there are many
> like me.
>
> Chuck Allison
>
>
>
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>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Jon Kalb <jon at kalbweb.com<mailto:jon at kalbweb.com>>
> Date: 7/12/18 7:56 PM (GMT-07:00)
> To: Hartmut Kaiser
> <hartmut.kaiser at gmail.com<mailto:hartmut.kaiser at gmail.com>>
> Cc: cppac at lists.cpp.ac<mailto:cppac at lists.cpp.ac>
> Subject: Re: [C++ Academia] Conference Proposal
>
>
> Is OOPSLA focused on what its name says (OOP)? It looks to me like cutting
> edge never uses “virtual.” I don’t really know what OOPSLA is doing or what
> academic research is going on related to C++. Please help me learn.
>
> Do you know how to go about setting up an affiliation with ACM or IEEE?
>
> I assume you did that for BoostCon, right?
>
> On 2018-07-12, 6:30 PM, "Hartmut Kaiser"
> <hartmut.kaiser at gmail.com<mailto:hartmut.kaiser at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Jon,
>
>     Thanks for spearheading this! I think an academic C++ conference would
> fill a
>     gaping hole in the landscape of scientific conferences.
>
>     Two things come to mind right away:
>
>     We should coordinate/look at/distinguish ourselves from OOPSLA, a
> leading
>     conference on language design and related topics.
>
>     A centerpiece for an academic conference is to provide a publication
> platform
>     (at least conference proceedings, better yet and in addition to the
>     proceedings - a special topics journals, possibly for a selected amount
> of
>     (best) papers only. The easiest way to organize proceedings etc. would
> be by
>     associating the conference with ACM or IEEE.
>
>     Regards Hartmut
>     ---------------
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>
>
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: CppAc
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> Jon Kalb
>     > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 5:39 PM
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>     > Subject: [C++ Academia] Conference Proposal
>     >
>     >
>     > Thank you all for introducing yourselves.
>     >
>     > I chair the C++Now and CppCon conferences as well as the Silicon
> Valley
>     > Code Camp C++ Track. I also chair the Boost Steering Committee and am
> a
>     > founding board member of the C++ Alliance and I starting this mailing
> list
>     > and the website that hosts it.
>     >
>     > I'm also a freelance onsite trainer for C++. This is the job at which
> I
>     > support myself.
>     >
>     > I want to share with you why I started this mailing list. It might
> seem
>     > obvious that I want to facilitate discussion among academics
> interested in
>     > C++. That is true, but I have three-point agenda. I feel like the
> first
>     > point is a prerequisite to successfully achieving the second and
> third:
>     >
>     > 1. Create a forum for academics interested in C++ to engage with each
>     > other
>     > 2. Fund the development and distribution of a set of curriculum guides
> for
>     > use by instructors that are using C++ in colligate instruction
>     > 3. Create an academic conference on C++
>     >
>     > With the creation of https://cpp.ac and this list, I'm one down and
> the
>     > two most difficult ones to go.
>     >
>     > Right now, I'd like to kick off discussion of the creation of an
> academic
>     > conference with a document that I've created here:
>     >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1POhpABMQe_2Odg9lKUt-
>     > LFce4DfXmrDMcE6UBPTXj_Y/edit?usp=sharing
>     >
>     > I'm interested in hearing your questions and comment or if you'd be
>     > willing to participate or volunteer to help in this effort.
>     >
>     > Thanks.
>     >
>     > Jon
>
>
>
>
>
>
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