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<span style="font-size:small;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Hi Folks,</span><div style="font-size:small;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style="font-size:small;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">A quick introduction of myself: My name is Mike Shah and I am part of the teaching faculty at Northeastern University. I primarily perform my research in C++ in the domains of program analysis and software visualization. I would certainly be in support of this style conference, and am willing to help at some level (Whether that be participating on this list, organizing, reviewing papers, etc.)</div><div style="font-size:small;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style="font-size:small;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">My understanding is that OOPSLA is still a top academic conference, though it has shifted to be more broad than language design. I think an important question folks are asking on how we will distinguish this venue from others. I certainly believe this should be a forum for publishing <i>best practices in teaching C++</i>.</div><div style="font-size:small;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style="font-size:small;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Is the other intent to have very broadly (e.g. systems, programming language, machine learning, graphics, etc<i>)</i> research performed in C++ to be available to this venue? I'm listing some conferences as examples that are specific to some tool/language that may spark some ideas on how to model this venue (Or perhaps someone could share another conference they imagine this models more closely to).<br></div><div style="font-size:small;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><ul><li>
<span style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">(i.e. Replace any specific language or tool with "C++" this might be what I imagine a call for papers would be)</span>
<br></li><li>Haskell Symposium</li><ul><li><a href="https://www.haskell.org/haskell-symposium/2018/index.html">https://www.haskell.org/haskell-symposium/2018/index.html</a> </li></ul><li>ManLang conference </li><ul><li><a href="http://ssw.jku.at/manlang18/index.php/manlang/call-for-paper">http://ssw.jku.at/manlang18/index.php/manlang/call-for-paper</a></li></ul><li>LLVM Performance Workshop and CGO</li><ul><li><a href="http://cgo.org/cgo2019/cfp/">http://cgo.org/cgo2019/cfp/</a> or <a href="https://llvm.org/devmtg/2018-02-24/">https://llvm.org/devmtg/2018-02-24/</a><br></li></ul></ul></div><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline">
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From: "Pati, Sarthak" <<a href="mailto:Sarthak.Pati@uphs.upenn.edu">Sarthak.Pati@uphs.upenn.edu</a>><br>
To: Chuck Allison <<a href="mailto:chuck.allison@gmail.com">chuck.allison@gmail.com</a>>, Jon Kalb<br>
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Would it make sense to conduct relevant training sessions on cutting edge algorithms/technologies using C++ in field-specific conferences? For instance, in the field of Medical Imaging, MICCAI<<a href="http://miccai.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://miccai.org/</a>>?s annual meetings would be a nice target in collaboration with Kitware (they design and maintain the ITK<<a href="https://itk.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://itk.org/</a>> library, one of the most widely used toolkits in the field).<br>
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I have been hiring for my team recently and I get the impression that current graduates are taught very antiquated methods in C++ and that notion needs to change if we would like traction in the academic community.<br>
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I presented a few times at OOPSLA. I don't feel it's relevant for me anymore, and I really don't hear much about it these days.<br>
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I do like the idea of having a conference associated with ACM. That's what CCSC does at a regional level (I have presented there many times over the last 15 years). For me personally, the idea of an academic conference that focuses on teaching as well as other interesting issues related to software development and programming languages is very appealing. CCSC does that, but it lacks relevance to and connection with industry. So either I like the idea of beefing up the academic component of Cppcon, or having another conference which is more welcoming to academics and yet still keeps the connection to industry. I live in both worlds, and I think there are many like me.<br>
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Is OOPSLA focused on what its name says (OOP)? It looks to me like cutting edge never uses ?virtual.? I don?t really know what OOPSLA is doing or what academic research is going on related to C++. Please help me learn.<br>
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Do you know how to go about setting up an affiliation with ACM or IEEE?<br>
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I assume you did that for BoostCon, right?<br>
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On 2018-07-12, 6:30 PM, "Hartmut Kaiser" <<a href="mailto:hartmut.kaiser@gmail.com">hartmut.kaiser@gmail.com</a><<wbr>mailto:<a href="mailto:hartmut.kaiser@gmail.com">hartmut.kaiser@gmail.<wbr>com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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Jon,<br>
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Thanks for spearheading this! I think an academic C++ conference would fill a<br>
gaping hole in the landscape of scientific conferences.<br>
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Two things come to mind right away:<br>
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We should coordinate/look at/distinguish ourselves from OOPSLA, a leading<br>
conference on language design and related topics.<br>
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A centerpiece for an academic conference is to provide a publication platform<br>
(at least conference proceedings, better yet and in addition to the<br>
proceedings - a special topics journals, possibly for a selected amount of<br>
(best) papers only. The easiest way to organize proceedings etc. would be by<br>
associating the conference with ACM or IEEE.<br>
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> Subject: [C++ Academia] Conference Proposal<br>
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> Thank you all for introducing yourselves.<br>
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> I chair the C++Now and CppCon conferences as well as the Silicon Valley<br>
> Code Camp C++ Track. I also chair the Boost Steering Committee and am a<br>
> founding board member of the C++ Alliance and I starting this mailing list<br>
> and the website that hosts it.<br>
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> I'm also a freelance onsite trainer for C++. This is the job at which I<br>
> support myself.<br>
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> I want to share with you why I started this mailing list. It might seem<br>
> obvious that I want to facilitate discussion among academics interested in<br>
> C++. That is true, but I have three-point agenda. I feel like the first<br>
> point is a prerequisite to successfully achieving the second and third:<br>
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> 1. Create a forum for academics interested in C++ to engage with each<br>
> other<br>
> 2. Fund the development and distribution of a set of curriculum guides for<br>
> use by instructors that are using C++ in colligate instruction<br>
> 3. Create an academic conference on C++<br>
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> With the creation of <a href="https://cpp.ac" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://cpp.ac</a> and this list, I'm one down and the<br>
> two most difficult ones to go.<br>
><br>
> Right now, I'd like to kick off discussion of the creation of an academic<br>
> conference with a document that I've created here:<br>
> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1POhpABMQe_2Odg9lKUt-" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/1POhpABMQe_<wbr>2Odg9lKUt-</a><br>
> LFce4DfXmrDMcE6UBPTXj_Y/edit?<wbr>usp=sharing<br>
><br>
> I'm interested in hearing your questions and comment or if you'd be<br>
> willing to participate or volunteer to help in this effort.<br>
><br>
> Thanks.<br>
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> Jon<br>
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